No-till Clover

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No-till Clover

Postby hillhunter » Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:12 am

Has anyone ever done this? Thinking about planting clover no-till mixed in with some wheat this fall and then killing off the wheat in feb so the clover can take over. Any one ever done anything like this.
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Re: No-till Clover

Postby Wingman » Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:22 pm

I just spread some on top of mowed plots.
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Re: No-till Clover

Postby hillhunter » Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:37 pm

You just did, or that's what you have done in the past?
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Re: No-till Clover

Postby Wingman » Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:43 pm

Crimson and arrowleaf clover will come up fine when spread on top of the ground if you get enough timely rains (like if it stays wet a few days). Wheat will certainly come up under the same circumstances. I've had a crimson/arrowleaf plot for the fourth fall now that I planted one time in 2010. I just mow and wait for rains to get it back going again. When I planted in 2010 it had wheat and oats in it. I killed them in the spring with clethodim herbicide and let the clover keep growing.
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Re: No-till Clover

Postby hillhunter » Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:54 pm

Thanks for the info. Been doing the wheat/oats/brassicas thing for years and really just sick of doing the same over and over. I'm in the prairie so the pH is fine and just wanting to try something different on several plots this year. I bushhogged Saturday and there some chances of rain this week so may try to do some before the rain. What is the seeding rate for those clovers?
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Re: No-till Clover

Postby Wingman » Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:49 pm

I don't know. I usually just put out a bag of Mississippi Blend per acre. MSU foodplot manual says broadcast 15 lb/acre for arrowleaf and 30 lb/acre for crimson. So I'd half each if planting the two alone and cut back a little more if planting with something else. Someone else may have a better idea.
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Re: No-till Clover

Postby Northbigmuddy » Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:55 am

I jumped into the clover last year. I planted ladino and have been pleased with it so far. It choked everything out and provided nice bugs for the turkeys and forage for the deer all summer. I'm going to establish some Arrowleaf plots this year. I agree with wingman on the moist soil emergence. I've seen beautiful stands of wheat where we crossed roads and didnt till it in.
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Re: No-till Clover

Postby Wingman » Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:19 pm

I just sprayed all of my clover plots (durana, patriot, arrow leaf/crimson) for grass. Mow the white clover two or three times in spring and summer. Spray for grass when necessary. Going on the fourth fall now from planting all of it in 2010.
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Re: No-till Clover

Postby jdbuckshot » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:24 am

Just mow it in early spring.
the more you mow clover the better it will do, especially Ladino.

The spray for grass if you need to.
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Re: No-till Clover

Postby hillhunter » Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:01 pm

Well, I spread the plots with white clover two weeks ago ahead of a rain and it is up to an extremely thick stand. Looks goods real good. Gonna kill the wheat and rye that's in it after deer season and hopefully the clover can take over in the spring.
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Re: No-till Clover

Postby Wingman » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:49 pm

That was quick! I thought mine had come up fast the first year but it turned out to be some oxalis. Looks like clover but after it gets bigger you can tell.
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