How many of you guys shoot TSS?

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How many of you guys shoot TSS?

Postby blingslinger » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:36 pm

How many of you shoot TSS for waterfowl, predators, hogs, or Turkeys?
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Postby GET-N-RITE » Fri Jun 02, 2017 6:48 am

TSS for turkeys, figured it would be to much money for ducks. Only reason I say to much money is that I shoot the cheapest shells possible. I couldn't imagine shooting 2-3 cases of tss in 3" 1.25oz.
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Postby Smoke68 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:15 am

GET-N-RITE wrote:TSS for turkeys, figured it would be to much money for ducks. Only reason I say to much money is that I shoot the cheapest shells possible. I couldn't imagine shooting 2-3 cases of tss in 3" 1.25oz.


I figured one of the advantages would be that you can go with a smaller size shot that maintains better velocity and have a harder hit, and thereby decrease the weight of the shot and maintain the same number of pellets. Of course it would still be expensive but a lot cheaper than 1.25 oz loads would be.

I just picked up a reloader in 20GA that I plan to use for my son in loading light load TSS for turkeys. Might do the same for ducks, but he'll have to practice at the range A LOT before I'll let him shoot TSS by the box.

TSS might make the .410 a formidable weapon against ducks due to being able to use smaller shot...... just thinking.
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Re: How many of you guys shoot TSS?

Postby reservoirdawg » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:45 am

blingslinger wrote:How many of you shoot TSS for waterfowl, predators, hogs, or Turkeys?


You the same guy that sells it on Facebook?
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Re: How many of you guys shoot TSS?

Postby blingslinger » Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:15 pm

GET-N-RITE wrote:TSS for turkeys, figured it would be to much money for ducks. Only reason I say to much money is that I shoot the cheapest shells possible. I couldn't imagine shooting 2-3 cases of tss in 3" 1.25oz.


With TSS there is no need in 1 1/4 oz for shooting ducks or large geese. 1/2 to 3/4 oz load are more than enough.


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blingslinger wrote:How many of you shoot TSS for waterfowl, predators, hogs, or Turkeys?


You the same guy that sells it on Facebook?


Yep, that is me.

The advantage as stated above for TSS, it the use of a smaller shot, and a lighter payload. A 3/4 oz load of #7.5 TSS (165 pellets) @ 1300 fps, has more pellets, and downrange energy, than a 1 1/4 oz load of #2 steel (156 pellets) at 1400 fps.

The standard for consistently taking large geese is 2.50" of ballistics gel penetration, and for small ducks is, 1.50" of gel penetration.

Below are some comparisons of several shot sizes types, and their ability to achieve 2.50" of ballistics gel penetration.

Steel BBs (72 pellets/oz) @ 1400 fps = 2.50” of ballistics Gel Penetration to 35 yds

Steel BBB (62 pellets/oz) @ 1400 = 2.50” of ballistics Gel Penetration to 41 yds

Pb BB (50 pellets/oz) @ 1300 fps = 2.50” of ballistics Gel Penetration to 83 yds

HW13 BB (47 pellets/oz) @ 1300 fps = 2.50” of ballistics Gel Penetration to 121 yds

TSS #2 (54 pellets/oz) @1300 fps = 2.50” of ballistics Gel Penetration to 163 yds

TSS #6 (139 pellets/oz) @ 1300 fps = 2.50” of ballistics Gel Penetration to 83 yds

TSS #7.5 (219 pellets/oz) @ 1300 fps = 2.50” of ballistics Gel Penetration to 57 yds
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Re: How many of you guys shoot TSS?

Postby missed mallards » Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:19 pm

TSS is some awesome stuff.

A 28 gauge or 410 I could see it.

A 20? I don't know. The steel loads these days aren't shabby.

I remember hearing a story of an accountant who got into duck hunting. He went out and got the best of everything. That was right when hevi hit the scene. They said he'd tense up when a flock would come in and would mutter something after every pull of the trigger. Later to find out it was 2.34, the cost every time he pulled the trigger lol.

What's it selling per pound now? turkey hunting it's the bees knees. To load 25 shells seems like it'd be north of 100 dollars a box. That be stout to stomach for the majority of hunters. Or so I would think
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Re: How many of you guys shoot TSS?

Postby blingslinger » Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:58 pm

$38/lb shipped and insured to your door. A 1/2 oz 20 ga load will run you about $1.50, and a 3/4 oz load around $2.00 to load.
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Postby GET-N-RITE » Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:13 am

I understand the concept of shooting smaller loads since the shot size vs steel is so much different. I still do not see for me as it being the next big load for waterfowl due to cost. If you can get it down to $1.50 a shell you are looking at 375 a case. I know the benefits of TSS however I do not see the marketing for me of promoting 70 yard kill shots.

I totally see the benefits for turkeys. One shot even if at 15 dollars doesn't matter. It's like deer hunting who cares if one shot cost 20 dollars. You are not shooting 500-750 shells a year.

One more thing I feel good shooting a stationary target at lets say 50 yards. That changes when target is at 50 yards moving at lets say 8mph.
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Re: How many of you guys shoot TSS?

Postby blingslinger » Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:31 am

GET-N-RITE wrote:I understand the concept of shooting smaller loads since the shot size vs steel is so much different. I still do not see for me as it being the next big load for waterfowl due to cost. If you can get it down to $1.50 a shell you are looking at 375 a case. I know the benefits of TSS however I do not see the marketing for me of promoting 70 yard kill shots.

I totally see the benefits for turkeys. One shot even if at 15 dollars doesn't matter. It's like deer hunting who cares if one shot cost 20 dollars. You are not shooting 500-750 shells a year.

One more thing I feel good shooting a stationary target at lets say 50 yards. That changes when target is at 50 yards moving at lets say 8mph.


I don't see anyone promoting 70 yard kill shots.
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Re: How many of you guys shoot TSS?

Postby cupnglide » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:44 am

I haven't tried TSS on turkeys. But a good friend swears by it. He did NA slam this season with a 20ga and TSS. So I guess it works pretty well.

Don't think I'd go to the expense of using it on ducks. But it would sure help on early season honkers. This past season, we had honkers take direct hits to the chest, landing, and they picked up and fly off. Saw the shot impact on them. These weren't long shots. They were at or inside 40 yds. Just big tough geese.

It would be worth $2 a shell to shoot them dead right there. I don't shoot that many shells during early season anyway.
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Re: How many of you guys shoot TSS?

Postby ScottyLee » Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:58 pm

cupnglide wrote:I haven't tried TSS on turkeys. But a good friend swears by it. He did NA slam this season with a 20ga and TSS. So I guess it works pretty well.

Don't think I'd go to the expense of using it on ducks. But it would sure help on early season honkers. This past season, we had honkers take direct hits to the chest, landing, and they picked up and fly off. Saw the shot impact on them. These weren't long shots. They were at or inside 40 yds. Just big tough geese.

It would be worth $2 a shell to shoot them dead right there. I don't shoot that many shells during early season anyway.


I would too buy it for honkers.. don't usually shoot more than 8-10 times a hunt, and if conditions aren't just perfect they can be tough to bring down. when they make a 2 3/4" that I can goose hunt with, i'll buy
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Re: How many of you guys shoot TSS?

Postby cupnglide » Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:58 pm

Blingslinger, what's the recommended load for resident giants? What's the cost?
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Re: How many of you guys shoot TSS?

Postby blingslinger » Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:31 pm

cupnglide wrote:Blingslinger, what's the recommended load for resident giants? What's the cost?


For large geese, I would go with a 1 oz load of #6s at around 1300 fps. It will give you killing energy to 83 yds, with 139 pellets.
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Re: How many of you guys shoot TSS?

Postby teul2 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:37 pm

blingslinger wrote:I don't see anyone promoting 70 yard kill shots.

I saw tons of 70yard claims during turkey season on social media.

blingslinger wrote:$38/lb shipped and insured to your door. A 1/2 oz 20 ga load will run you about $1.50, and a 3/4 oz load around $2.00 to load.

I could definitely see me loading some 410's for $1.50 if I had the equipment.
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