Page 1 of 1

Tree question

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:18 am
by Wildfowler
Wow! No new posts in a while.

I’ve got a question for the Foresters and the general know it all’s here.

Sawtooth oak?

I know they grow pretty fast. Is there any marketable timber value to planting those over pine trees? Pulp wood? saw logs when they get a little bigger?

Or is there value generally limited to the abundant acorn crop they produce for wildlife?

Thanks.

Re: Tree question

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:40 am
by stang67
Not a forester, but the foresters I’ve talked to generally regard sawtooths as giant weeds. They’re fun for landowners because they grow fast and attract wildlife quickly. I don’t think there’s comparable value to a pine, from a forest products standpoint. But a pine ain’t bringing much either, right now.

Re: Tree question

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:24 am
by Wildfowler
What about 20-24 year old WRP “type” hardwood plantation that’s ready for a thinning?

Is this regular kind of hardware pulp worth more or less than similar pulp sized pine today?

Thanks.

Re: Tree question

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:04 pm
by stang67
I think pulpwood is notionally the same in $/ton, pine vs hdwd. I don’t know if the ton/acre is similar on pine vs sawtooth plantations. A real forester could weigh in on that.

Google “msucares timber prices” for some actual numbers. May not completely answer your question but it’s interesting to look at. They even have it tabulated by region now. Here’s an example. http://extension.msstate.edu/sites/defa ... Report.pdf

Re: Tree question

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:05 pm
by peewee
I am a forester but don't practice in the field. In my opinion I have never heard of a market for sawtooth. Typically the way they fill out in open sunlight I don't think they would be very valuable on the market especially comparing them with pine.

Re: Tree question

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:57 pm
by Wildfowler
Hey, thanks for that chart. Mississippi timber report. I will remember that.

Looks like hardwood pulp is worth a little more on average them pine pulp across the state.

Any idea how many pulpwood sized pine or hardwood trees it takes to equal a ton, or how many of tons are on a typical plantation acre?

Dumb it down for me please.

Re: Tree question

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:02 pm
by Wildfowler

Re: Tree question

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:28 am
by stang67
What’s the site like? What are your goals?

People like to poo poo on pines. I was once in that camp. In small manageable doses, I like them. We’ve planted a lot of pine, hdwd, and some containerized stuff from nurseries in the last 2-3 years. Can be both fun and frustrating.

Re: Tree question

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:37 pm
by mshunter77