What is baiting?

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What is baiting?

Postby Wingman » Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:14 pm

ISAIAH 40:31

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Re: What is baiting?

Postby Deltamud77 » Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:28 pm

I appreciate it wingman and the job you do.

I posted in the other thread but I will post here as well.

Question based on this hypothetical:

You have a 400 acre field that has 50 acres of standing corn left unharvested in a corner. The combine cuts a strip right though the middle of the remaining standing corn. You place a blind on the strip (a harvested strip) and place decoys in the strip. You flood all of the remaining standing corn. You hunt in the blind and kill ducks?

Are you hunting illegally or does not equate to normal agricultural practices?

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Re: What is baiting?

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Re: What is baiting?

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Re: What is baiting?

Postby bulldog ducker » Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:09 pm

the way the link reads that would be legal. As long as the grain is harvested on that strip the farmer or you can choose not to harvest whatever he wants to leave.

I have a better one...

Lets say January rolls around and the ducks are hitting the corn 100 yards from your blind. Can you get the farmer to crank the combine up an harvest you "a hole in the corn"? Unless the date matters I don't see why not...
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Re: What is baiting?

Postby eSJay » Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:17 pm

"Sir, I never take a chance when shooting waterfowl...
I believe in hitting him very hard with big shot from a big gun....."

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Re: What is baiting?

Postby deltadukman » Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:00 pm

Its 85 degress in the middle of December. Not sure what counts as abnormal, but I bet there are several stands of grain that could still be harvested. Yields may be low, but I'm sure with the right $$ it could be argued :wink:
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Re: What is baiting?

Postby hntrpat1 » Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:10 am

I had a game warden at catahoula lake tell me that legally he could give me a ticket for walking through wild millet and knocking the seeds off. I told him to go ahead and write it so i can make him look like an idiot in court. he didn't do it.
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Re: What is baiting?

Postby BAY KINGFISHER » Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:55 am

There is standing corn everywhere in IA right now; and its def. a normal agricultural practice to leave standing sometimes. The farmers may have run out of room for the grain or waiting on price or got to wet to cut!!
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Re: What is baiting?

Postby LODI QUACKER » Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:47 am

Funny part, Game wardens go by what the ASCS office "says" is normal. Not what is really normal.

So just because its normal, doesn't mean its normal.
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Re: What is baiting?

Postby eSJay » Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:33 pm

"Sir, I never take a chance when shooting waterfowl...
I believe in hitting him very hard with big shot from a big gun....."

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Re: What is baiting?

Postby Deltamud77 » Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:07 pm

If we are being honest, it is not normal to leave 50 to 100 acres of corn uncut or to harvest a strip through the middle of standing corn in an ag field. There is nothing normal about it. That is the basis of my question and I still don't have an answer from the OP. I would like to know though...not to flame but just to make sure I am legal.
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Re: What is baiting?

Postby Bercy » Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:01 pm

A lot of these questions seem to be answered by the link Wingman provided above. It uses the word "normal" 38 times in a lot of different circumstances explaining things.

"Normal" doesn't have anything to do with leaving unharvested grain as it is perfectly legal to leave and hunt non-harvested grain.

As far as the strip through 50 acres of corn - not normal would be to run a combine and just disburse and not collect the grain; thus, one strip that is cut and grain collected is perfectly "normal".

Of course, I saw something recently where a farmer/hunter up north left some corn late into the season and it was deemed to not be "normal" because 98% or so of the farmed corn had already been harvested.

So yes, the interpretation of "normal" is not always, well, normal.
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Re: What is baiting?

Postby eSJay » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:07 pm

"Sir, I never take a chance when shooting waterfowl...
I believe in hitting him very hard with big shot from a big gun....."

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Re: What is baiting?

Postby eSJay » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:07 pm

"Sir, I never take a chance when shooting waterfowl...
I believe in hitting him very hard with big shot from a big gun....."

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