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Force fetch?

Postby bmaskew04 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:08 pm

I have a 16 month old that just went through her first season, I worked her myself and this is the first dog I have done so with so I had to kinda learn as I go. She did well retrieving and picked up many birds for myself and some of my huntin buddies this year. My only problem is bringing bird to hand, it never fails she will drop the bird 5-6 feet before she gets to me every time. She has never been force fetched and I'm curious is it too late to do so? She does the same thing with dummies when it's just me and her out in the back yard. At first I had the mind set that hell I don't mind walkin a step or two to pick up a bird, it's better than walking out 20-40 yards, but it was aggravating at times. Any advice?
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Re: Force fetch?

Postby chance » Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:48 am

Start with the "Hold" command then force fetch.
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Re: Force fetch?

Postby EvanG » Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:54 pm

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Re: Force fetch?

Postby chance » Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:32 pm

I start "Hold" with my hand in a leather glove. I put my hand in the dog's mouth and command "Hold". Using my hand in this manner gives me far greater feel when the dog is trying to spit out my hand. I can also control the spitting out better, not allowing the dog to spit out my hand. You can use your other hand to force or hold the dog's bottom jaw up so that it is more difficult to spit out your hand. When I am comfortable that the dog is holding my hand, I can begin using some other device such as a paint roller.
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Re: Force fetch?

Postby 99beers » Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:25 pm

Ff is overrated for hunting, but necessary for hunt tests.
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Re: Force fetch?

Postby EvanG » Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:35 am

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Re: Force fetch?

Postby chance » Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:22 pm

I will have to disagree with the comment concerning FF and hunting. When hunting I want my dog to reliably pick up whatever I shoot, on command, and successfully return it to me. That's FF. Just another part of being a complete hunting retriever.
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Re: Force fetch?

Postby cheeko » Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:47 pm

Hunting in milow is tuff!!!!! if you have several ducks in the blocks dead and one is cripple most FF dogs pick up the go bird. You can command the dog to drop and cast him to the cripple to recover before you lose it. Also a non FF dog will shop around in the blocks if there is several birds down.
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Re: Force fetch?

Postby 99beers » Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:08 pm

My dog is ff. I understand it. Look deaper.
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Re: Force fetch?

Postby chance » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:34 am

"My dog is ff. I understand it. Look deaper."
Interesting comment. Care to give us further understanding?

Not only FF but I also want my hunting retriever to handle. Saves a lot of walking for me.
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