What is it going to take to get a real "change" in America?

[Jeff]

I don't think change will happen. In today's world you can't get people to vote much less stand up for something. I think it surely gets worse but I am not sure how much worse it can get.

I also am not sure of any place that is better. Canada.... no way while they have great natural resources, their health care is garbage, move there and get sick and you may get a toe tag. Socialized medicine is not how I want to be cared for. Right now while it is rapidly changing the US is still hands down the best thing going. Until that changes I am here.

This isn't to imply that I love how things are going, but I am not aware of anyplace better at the moment. So I'll stick it out here and continue to teach my kids right from wrong and to stand up for themselves.

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The middle class is shrinking because we've allowed corporate America to marginalize the American dream. I truly believe that many of the people on the government dole would get off if they could land a decent paying gig. Our problem is the lack of economic opportunity, the lost path to the middle class. It has been outsourced, marginalized, and diminished by the organized and concentrated efforts of big business. That Federal immigration reform bill - it opens the doors to quadruple the number of temporary guest workers in high tech, high skilled jobs. Big businesses can in-source foreign labor and lay off Americans, they pay less than 1% in taxes, they are cutting benefits like health insurance. They know they can buy enough republican or democratic representation to shrug off any serious reform. That is why the middle class is shrinking. We have to recognize that they are multinational organizations that do not have the best interests of the American worker at heart.

Yeah, but how much of that is due to govt regulation? Most of them move operations overseas because it is to expensive to do business here.