Okay, this is definitely toothcup. Found it in another impoundment: Toothcup http://www.yazoovalleywildlife.com/toothcup_1.JPG Toothcup http://www.yazoovalleywildlife.com/toothcup_2.JPG And this is "F" in the first post. Definitely not toothcup. http://www.yazoovalleywildlife.com/bidens_1...

I tried hevi 13 straight 6's and 4x5x7 yesterday with a jellyhead in my 835 and I was not at all impressed. The nitro h517T was quite a bit better but still not what I'm looking for.

I have a outback and just put a torqueless grip on it and love it

I must be the only one that is not pleased with them. I have 2 pair of costas that stay messed up. I bought some maui jims 2yrs ago and they have not failed yet.

On some of them that I have seen in magazines they have a 1.5 sec trigger speed. That seems slow to me.