DeerDawg wrote:Thanks for the help. Not sure of another name for tievines that's just all I have ever heard them called by the farmers around here. I do know they will bring down some sunflowers though

Morningglory by chance?

Okay, this is definitely toothcup. Found it in another impoundment:

Toothcup
http://www.yazoovalleywildlife.com/toothcup_1.JPG

Toothcup
http://www.yazoovalleywildlife.com/toothcup_2.JPG


And this is "F" in the first post. Definitely not toothcup.

http://www.yazoovalleywildlife.com/bidens ...

I tried hevi 13 straight 6's and 4x5x7 yesterday with a jellyhead in my 835 and I was not at all impressed. The nitro h517T was quite a bit better but still not what I'm looking for.

I have a outback and just put a torqueless grip on it and love it

I must be the only one that is not pleased with them. I have 2 pair of costas that stay messed up. I bought some maui jims 2yrs ago and they have not failed yet.

On some of them that I have seen in magazines they have a 1.5 sec trigger speed. That seems slow to me.